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your point of view? What should the opinions of others matter to you?Regarding Count Vertigo, Ollie shot more than one arrow just in case (sometimes one is not enough), but it seems you care more about keeping dangerous criminals alive than the victims.
If you really think Ollie is a criminal, then why you keep watching? I stop watching Agents of Shield a few weeks ago, now I don't have to tolerate its campiness and mediocrity, I have better things to do than to waste my time with bad tv shows.Last edited by Dagenspear; 11-26-2013, 09:56 AM.Comment
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And also, that first arrow...it was to save Felicity; I'll always say that, but I'm not arguing about the extra arrows...that was Ollie wanting Vertigo dead as a doornail and that bit was too much.Comment
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Laurel has faced setback after setback this season (with her defeat at the trial the latest) and it's still unclear to me why or to what end this is being done to her character. If it's part of a larger scheme to have her hit rock-bottom and find the resolve within to rebuild and renew herself, this larger picture has yet to reveal itself. With Canary being so intertwined with Ollie's destiny, the pendulum should swing closer to what she represents in the comics than to pleasing this or that fan base. Fickle is definitely the word.
My concern is that Ollie-focused shipper fever (and not just Olicity, but any other potential one: with Isabel, Shado, etc.) could easily sweep aside any progress Laurel may make. Laurel is a lead character, which means if push comes to shove in the character development department, she should be near the front of the line -- not sidelined to accommodate the latest trend.
It reminds me of the handling of Lois Lane's awkward entry on Smallville, at least initially. Writing and lackadaisical planning was the main culprit there. Won't get into that here (it is a Pandora's box), but essentially I found it outrageous that, on a show about the future Superman, there were voices that did not even want Lois to be on the show. I would hate for those sentiments to develop around Laurel.
The silent majority are the casual TV viewers who just want a good, entertaining story and good characters, who are neither concerned about comics minutiae nor the latest online-driven fad or trending ship on a show.
Might be hard to believe on a show about a comics superhero, but I think the moderates in the viewership are the viewers you don't want to alienate or turn away.
It needs to be said: Black Canary is no second-rate superhero. She is a founding member of the Justice League, arguably second only to Wonder Woman in prominence. If this is the legacy that Laurel will rise to by series' end, it deserves more attention -- and respect -- than to be sidelined for story arcs that may get short term ratings, but cost Laurel or even Ollie's character development much more in the long term.
I still hope for the best for Laurel, we may yet be surprised ...Comment
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I mainly agree with you guys. This sidelining of Laurel with this dumb drug addict storyline is downright annoying on all levels. As a fan of Katie, and as someone who was eagerly anticipating this great build to her becoming Black Canary, I can't say I'm happy with this development. And making Sara into BC just feels so cheap, and I think it takes something away from Laurel as a character too, the idea that if she ever becomes BC that it won't actually be a persona she constructed on her own. Laurel should be right smack dab in the middle of this storyline with her sister, and she's relegated to side-character Henry James Olsen ****? WTF?
Laurel's next big story arc begins in 209 and Mz Katie Cassidy hits every episode out of the parkComment
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Just realized something: Oliver had his good off the entire time he was in his office with the count. Now when police look at surveillance they're going to see Oliver is Arrow. This may be the defining moment when Detective Lance finds out the hood is Oliver and he gives him the green mask so he can shield his identity when the hood is off. BOOM!Comment
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Judging from the title of this episode I really didn't expect this episode to be the best of the season (so far)
Malcolm recovering from the Lazurus Pit?!?
Not sure about how Thea being his daughter plays importance except add more drama to the whole thing.
Felicity and Oliver moments are soooooo goood..... whyyyyy must it be sooo goood....?! I want more yet kinda feel scared at the same time. We ultimately know Oliver must end up with Laurel...but the sad thing is knowing nothing will come out of this Felicity and Oliver relationship and if they screw it up we'll be all over this.
"It feels really good having you inside me. OMG. By you, I mean your voice and by me I meant my ear....I'm going to stop talking now."
Haha I loved when she went undercover at the underground casino. That was great.Comment
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i'm guessing the opposite. Oliver said he saw her die a second time. I think she'll try to help them and the guy will kill her for that. Otherwise Oliver might have been more hostile towards her when they reunited. But that's just my speculationComment
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It is also a fact that fans can be notoriously fickle and that fandom preferences can change over time, so you can't really base your storylines too much on perceived fan popularity...
I personally don't mind if they put the Lauriver romance on a back burner (I mean, it was on a back burner for the most part of season one as well!), but I want to see them interact for more than a few minutes (or even seconds!) in every episode...
And as for the second part, I agree. Even though their relationship is inevitable, it'd be nice to see a little more interaction between the two, even as friends. Although, perhaps not in this episode. As some others have mentioned previously, I, too was bothered by the fact that Oliver seemed unperturbed by laurel acting as prosecutor, which would not have been allowed in real life due to conflict of interest but I guess even great shows like arrow aren't without their flawsComment
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